tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588126970544264673.post4811196199126123502..comments2024-01-03T17:20:36.960-05:00Comments on Thoughts Arise: The Movie "2012" - Who Lost Tibet?Marc Merlinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01946231992925684244noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588126970544264673.post-18798002239589447542024-01-03T17:20:36.960-05:002024-01-03T17:20:36.960-05:00The older this article gets, the more golden/gold ...The older this article gets, the more golden/gold becomes. Miguel Juliaonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588126970544264673.post-66002002457835501652009-12-15T07:54:14.908-05:002009-12-15T07:54:14.908-05:00FYI:
''I saw it, it is an interesting movi...FYI:<br />''I saw it, it is an interesting movie. I agree with you first point, he should have used Tibetan actors or actress, the accents are not clearly Tibetan, rather several Inji speak Tibetan, kind of funny though. <br />But I disagree with your second point, the movie is telling a very important political messages about the current situation in Tibet without insulting Chinese, btw, the movie is very popular in china now. (1) the Chinese forcibly moved Tibetans (actually, PLA with guns ask Tibetan to move from their own land) from their land to “accommodate” these international gigantic arks. (2) It suggests that Tibetans have no choice, but killing chicken ( not Tibetan ways of life) to survive. (3) Even though the most workers are Chinese, they are not even told the mission and did not tell to “board” the ship, it portrayed Chinese are cheap and the government are brutal'<br /><br />http://forums.phayul.com/index.php?showtopic=15529<br /><br />BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588126970544264673.post-22054493984445136552009-12-15T07:13:38.943-05:002009-12-15T07:13:38.943-05:00Sorry, but i dont agree.Its a very good movie..you...Sorry, but i dont agree.Its a very good movie..you seem to have allowewd your politics to get in the way of your movie viewing.<br />What makes the film 'absolutely rotten'?<br /><br />'I want to be clear that I did not write the essay with the aim of promoting the cause of Tibet, and I certainly do not long for return of the kind of state that existed there before the Chinese invasion - a theocratic, feudal government largely unconcerned with the welfare of the people under its rule.'<br /><br />This is ironic....as that WAS rhe justification for the chinese invasion!<br />Its also ironic to quiz chinese americans about what they think of tibet, when americans are so ready to be enslave by ameican ideas of US occupations in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.<br /><br />Meanwhile. tibet apart, 2012 is one fine movie.<br /><br />BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588126970544264673.post-45376911812906188922009-12-06T20:41:11.270-05:002009-12-06T20:41:11.270-05:00Ernie,
Thanks, as usual, for your comments.
I co...Ernie,<br /><br />Thanks, as usual, for your comments.<br /><br />I couldn't agree with you more, this was one rotten movie. I will forever hold it against Roland Emmerich that I saw it twice; the first time, like you, because I was in the mood for special effects extravaganza and the second time, in part, because I felt duty-bound as a blogger to verify my suspicion that the word "Tibet" was not mentioned in the film.<br /><br />I want to be clear that I did not write the essay with the aim of promoting the cause of Tibet, and I certainly do not long for return of the kind of state that existed there before the Chinese invasion - a theocratic, feudal government largely unconcerned with the welfare of the people under its rule.<br /><br />This set of circumstances was used as a pretext for a brutal "liberation" of the country with the resulting emplacement of a Maoist, authoritarian government largely unconcerned with the welfare of the people under its rule.<br /><br />Of course things are much better now for the rest of China and, to a much lesser extent, Tibet.<br /><br />Whether one is a fan of Tibet or not, it exists as a recognizable geographical and cultural entity. To locate a film there without mentioning the place or its people by name is like setting a film in New York City and insisting on referring to Manhattan as "America" in the screenplay.<br /><br />It is this legerdemain with place names for political purposes that I object to.<br /><br />MarcMarc Merlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01946231992925684244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5588126970544264673.post-23532315196710652372009-12-06T11:29:42.946-05:002009-12-06T11:29:42.946-05:00This film was absolutely rotten, and not worth see...This film was absolutely rotten, and not worth seeing except to experience the special effects (which is the only reason I went to see it).<br /><br />I suspect that the movie producers and director not only didn't want to offend Chinese officials, but also recent Chinese immigrants living in the U.S. and elsewhere. I have spoken to several immigrants from China about Tibet in the past, and most of them think that China was in the right to invade and seize Tibet. Invariably I hear that they think the Dalai Lama is a ``cult leader'' who had enslaved his people with religion, and that China's invasion was a righteous act. <br /><br />Perhaps the best argument I have heard against the Dalai Lama being a ``cult leader'' is the fact that he didn't choose to be the leader of Tibet -- he was chosen (recognized as the reincarnation of the D-L while only a poor, very young child). Of course, one could argue that ``cult leader''-type corruption is a consequence of power -- power may not corrupt absolutely, but it does corrupt (e.g. the ring of Gyges). That may be so to some limited degree, but I suspect that there is probably also a strong genetic component to corrupt power-seeking behavior, and that such a proclivity is exceedingly rare in the general population. So, unless the infant Dalai Lama was selected for power-seeking behavior, it is unlikely that he has these tendencies now.Ernie Croothttp://www.math.gatech.edu/~ecrootnoreply@blogger.com